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GA 610 | Lean and AI in the Legal Field with Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland

GA 610 | Lean and AI in the Legal Field with Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland

Update: 2025-12-11
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This week’s guests are Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland. Ron, Heather, and Adam discussed how lean is being applied in legal settings, the status quo when it comes to AI, what the future might look like, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download here.


In this episode you’ll learn: 



  • The quotes that inspire Heather and Adam (3:44 )

  • Their backgrounds (5:37 )

  • The role of lean (7:36 )

  • Examples of using lean in a legal setting (10:20 )

  • What they’re learning (13:01 )

  • The future of AI and its effect on humanity (17:38 )

  • Challenges as it relates to lean and AI (19:14 )

  • What things will look like in five years (24:52 )

  • The adoption of lean in the legal industry (27:01 )

  • Moving from control to curiosity (29:10 )

  • Their final words of wisdom (33:33 )


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GA 610 | Lean and AI in the Legal Field with Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland

GA 610 | Lean and AI in the Legal Field with Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland

Ron Pereira: Lean Thinker & Co-Founder of Gemba Academy